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Taj wrote:
These new pages are amazing but I think that (for St. Mungo’s page) McGonagall was hit by four (not three) Stunning Spells in OP31; for the hardcover American edition, that’s page 721.
Although, as you probably expected, I have some suggestions.
On the list of patients, since you’ve included nameless ones, you could add a few more:
I beleave there was a wizard in cursed shoes that were eating his feet,
a little girl with wings,
a witch who was barking like a dog,
a newly-bitten werewolf,
a witch who refused to tell how she got wounded
and somebody who was ticking like a clock.
— October 16, 2007 @ 4:42 pm
Reader2 wrote:
Sorry, just one more.
This one was named, athough I do not recall the name, a patient who thought he was a teapot.
— October 16, 2007 @ 4:48 pm
Shim wrote:
Good morning!
Where is Steve’s full report of his visit to the movie studios??? I expected his transcription of the Black Family Tree or some new canon, but nothing new from months ago. Please, Steve, reply!
— October 16, 2007 @ 4:51 pm
Marco wrote:
I like something to add to Tom Riddles Orphanage.
Martha was definitly one of the orphans rather than staff. (Mrs. Cole)”…and take this iodine upstairs to Martha”. The girl, who opened Dumbledore, wore an apron, so she was probably staff or an older orphan, who carried out staff duties.
The orphanage was not neccessarily close to the shop, where Tom Riddle purchased his diary. London had already public transport incl. underground in the late 30s, and Riddle would have surely not hesitated to board a bus or a subway train without ticket, or to steal money for it.
The Stockwell orphanage was in the Borough of Lambeth, what is in central Londen, but there is evidence, that the orphanage was rather in the outskirts of London. The orphanage staff was appearantly not able to get a doctor or an ambulance for Merope Gaunt in time, as she showed up in labor. In an urban area like Lambeth it should had been possible.
“Severus Snape was a conundrum to all who know him: (…); the only person known to have been both a Death Eater and a member of the Order of the Phoenix.”
Actually, Peter Pettigrew was an Order member and a Death Eater as well (he had the Mark, and was in the Moody picture)
— October 16, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
hpboy13 wrote:
Awesome job!!! I can’t wait to see the new entry on Grimmauld Place, sicne it was such a prominent location in DH!
General musing:
I’ve found that in a lot of fanfic, characters go to St Mungo’s to have their babies, and yet St Mungo’s does not have a maternity ward. I suspect this means that wizard babies are born at home. I would be very interested to know something about wizarding midwives.
Of course, it might also be that St Mungo’s doesn’t *need* a maternity ward. If there are about 40 wizard babies born in Britain every years (and some of those to Muggle families), then that’s less than one baby per week. I still like the idea of midwives more than hospital births, though.
Bandersnatch: You might as well perform a C-section using “Sectumsempra”. I’m sure it would be just as pleasant for the mother. :p
— October 17, 2007 @ 1:17 am
Marco wrote:
I think I have read somewhere in DH, that Harry was born in Godrics Hollow, and a village of such a size has surely no hospital.
And since the Tonks as well as Bill and Fleur has means at home to heal injuries, what would land a muggle in hospital for weeks, I don´t think, that there is need for special wizarding midwifes.
But Merope Gaunt had her baby in a muggle orphanage, and the staff there had surely no special medical skills, and they failed to get qualified medical attendance for her, as her condition detoriated. A doctor might have saved Merope Gaunt.
— October 17, 2007 @ 7:38 am
Luna Lupin =Moony wrote:
Concerning the St.-Mungo’s staff: in gf31 Rita Skeeter has written an article, speculating on Harry’s mental health and she tells there’s a staff member of st.-Mungo’s who wishes to stay anonymous, but he tells her what he thinks. In OP there’s someone who had a quarrell during Christmas, there was something with his nose ??(op23) this patient isn’t mentioned on the st.-Mungo’s page, i think.
Concerning getting babies and dying in childbirth: during my studies of history, I got a course on demographics, and the professor told us till the beginning of the 20th century, 2% of the mothers died in childbirth. Women got +-5 children, so the chances to die in childbirth =5-10%. Merope was weakened and poor, perhaps, the orphanage consulted a midwife (living nearby the orphanage), or an older woman (who was experienced) helped Merope and tried to be a midwife.
— October 17, 2007 @ 8:21 am
Heather wrote:
Hi, on the Tom Riddle’s Orphanage page there is a typo - he attened Hogwarts should be “attended”. The ‘d’ is missing
Loving the updates though!
— October 17, 2007 @ 9:44 am
JJB wrote:
Bandersnatch, loved your observation, I really did “laugh out loud”. I’m sure I’d prefer birth by “Accio” rather than “Sectumsempra” because curses like Sectumsempra leave scars that can’t be healed. No self-respecting midwitch would leave a scar.
“Accio baby!” hahaha great one!
Yeah Lisa, it was actually a good line, but sorry
— October 17, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
elor wrote:
“Accio Baby”… ouch, what a thought! Seeing as how Fred and George’s broomsticks broke their chains, crashed through several solid doors when summoned, I really don’t want to imagine the effect of this… great laugh, though! :-))
— October 18, 2007 @ 2:12 am
Luna Lupin =Moony wrote:
It’s a stereotype/cliché, but in the 16th century midwives and women skilled in herbology had to be carefull not to end up in a witch-trial. Another fact concerning dying in childbirth: many young mothers caught an infection, because the helping doctors didn’t respect the simple hygienics (they didn’t wash their hands).
I updated the St. Mungo’s patients list to include the other nameless folks in the waiting room (there were actually quite a few more than you mentioned, Reader2).
Marco, I disagree with some of your comments - I don’t see any canon backing for Martha “definitely” being an orphan except that the orphans use her first name (and it says that Mrs. Cole passed “helpers and orphans” in the hallway, implying two disparate groups of people - if there are other staff why would she have someone take the iodine to an orphan?). I also think it’s pretty solid that the girl at the door was an orphan - why would Harry (at age 15) think of her as a “girl” if she were old enough to be staff? I agree that neither is 100% certain, but this seems most likely to me by far.
— October 18, 2007 @ 10:41 am
JJB wrote:
The girl answering the door at the orphanage would be called a “girl” more because of her duties than age—at least up to a point. Don’t forget that at the time period we are talking about the kind of person who would take a position of the kind the girl appeared to hold at the orphanage would have been in her mid to late teens. Whether staff or orphan with staff duties can’t be known but it would have been seen as highly improper to have the orphans actually be the ones to answer the door, except as pseudostaff. Mrs. Cole had enough of the lady about her—small remnant though it be—not to be aware of such expectations.
— October 18, 2007 @ 11:40 am
Marco wrote:
Yeah, and in HBP, Ch.13 Mrs. Cole said: “I remember it clear as anything, because I´d just started here myself. … And this girl not much older than I was myself at the time,…” Since Merope Gaunt was 19 at that time, Mrs. Cole must have been also in her late teens, as she became staff member of the orphanage (and therefore in her late 20s as Dumbledore showed up). That means, that some of the staff members of the orphanage might have been actually woman in their late teens. And it is certainly not unusual to refer to a woman of 17-19 as girl.
Taj wrote:
These new pages are amazing but I think that (for St. Mungo’s page) McGonagall was hit by four (not three) Stunning Spells in OP31; for the hardcover American edition, that’s page 721.
— October 16, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
John wrote:
Fixed.
— October 16, 2007 @ 3:36 pm
Reader2 wrote:
I sure love the new St. Mango’s page.
Although, as you probably expected, I have some suggestions.
On the list of patients, since you’ve included nameless ones, you could add a few more:
I beleave there was a wizard in cursed shoes that were eating his feet,
a little girl with wings,
a witch who was barking like a dog,
a newly-bitten werewolf,
a witch who refused to tell how she got wounded
and somebody who was ticking like a clock.
— October 16, 2007 @ 4:42 pm
Reader2 wrote:
Sorry, just one more.
This one was named, athough I do not recall the name, a patient who thought he was a teapot.
— October 16, 2007 @ 4:48 pm
Shim wrote:
Good morning!
Where is Steve’s full report of his visit to the movie studios??? I expected his transcription of the Black Family Tree or some new canon, but nothing new from months ago. Please, Steve, reply!
— October 16, 2007 @ 4:51 pm
Marco wrote:
I like something to add to Tom Riddles Orphanage.
Martha was definitly one of the orphans rather than staff. (Mrs. Cole)”…and take this iodine upstairs to Martha”. The girl, who opened Dumbledore, wore an apron, so she was probably staff or an older orphan, who carried out staff duties.
The orphanage was not neccessarily close to the shop, where Tom Riddle purchased his diary. London had already public transport incl. underground in the late 30s, and Riddle would have surely not hesitated to board a bus or a subway train without ticket, or to steal money for it.
The Stockwell orphanage was in the Borough of Lambeth, what is in central Londen, but there is evidence, that the orphanage was rather in the outskirts of London. The orphanage staff was appearantly not able to get a doctor or an ambulance for Merope Gaunt in time, as she showed up in labor. In an urban area like Lambeth it should had been possible.
— October 16, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
David wrote:
Awesome content. Keep it coming and good work!
— October 16, 2007 @ 5:46 pm
Eduardo Andrade (duxx) wrote:
Hey, about Snape’s page…
“Severus Snape was a conundrum to all who know him: (…); the only person known to have been both a Death Eater and a member of the Order of the Phoenix.”
Actually, Peter Pettigrew was an Order member and a Death Eater as well (he had the Mark, and was in the Moody picture)
— October 16, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
hpboy13 wrote:
Awesome job!!! I can’t wait to see the new entry on Grimmauld Place, sicne it was such a prominent location in DH!
— October 16, 2007 @ 9:00 pm
skjaere wrote:
General musing:
I’ve found that in a lot of fanfic, characters go to St Mungo’s to have their babies, and yet St Mungo’s does not have a maternity ward. I suspect this means that wizard babies are born at home. I would be very interested to know something about wizarding midwives.
— October 16, 2007 @ 10:04 pm
skjaere wrote:
Of course, it might also be that St Mungo’s doesn’t *need* a maternity ward. If there are about 40 wizard babies born in Britain every years (and some of those to Muggle families), then that’s less than one baby per week. I still like the idea of midwives more than hospital births, though.
— October 16, 2007 @ 11:04 pm
Bandersnatch wrote:
Wizarding midwife: “Accio baby!!”
Ahem. Sorry.
— October 16, 2007 @ 11:23 pm
Lisa wrote:
That cracked me up Bander!
Eduardo Andrade (duxx), OMG you’re right. And that was one of my fave lines.
— October 17, 2007 @ 12:32 am
skjaere wrote:
Bandersnatch: You might as well perform a C-section using “Sectumsempra”. I’m sure it would be just as pleasant for the mother. :p
— October 17, 2007 @ 1:17 am
Marco wrote:
I think I have read somewhere in DH, that Harry was born in Godrics Hollow, and a village of such a size has surely no hospital.
And since the Tonks as well as Bill and Fleur has means at home to heal injuries, what would land a muggle in hospital for weeks, I don´t think, that there is need for special wizarding midwifes.
But Merope Gaunt had her baby in a muggle orphanage, and the staff there had surely no special medical skills, and they failed to get qualified medical attendance for her, as her condition detoriated. A doctor might have saved Merope Gaunt.
— October 17, 2007 @ 7:38 am
Luna Lupin =Moony wrote:
Concerning the St.-Mungo’s staff: in gf31 Rita Skeeter has written an article, speculating on Harry’s mental health and she tells there’s a staff member of st.-Mungo’s who wishes to stay anonymous, but he tells her what he thinks. In OP there’s someone who had a quarrell during Christmas, there was something with his nose ??(op23) this patient isn’t mentioned on the st.-Mungo’s page, i think.
Concerning getting babies and dying in childbirth: during my studies of history, I got a course on demographics, and the professor told us till the beginning of the 20th century, 2% of the mothers died in childbirth. Women got +-5 children, so the chances to die in childbirth =5-10%. Merope was weakened and poor, perhaps, the orphanage consulted a midwife (living nearby the orphanage), or an older woman (who was experienced) helped Merope and tried to be a midwife.
— October 17, 2007 @ 8:21 am
Heather wrote:
Hi, on the Tom Riddle’s Orphanage page there is a typo - he attened Hogwarts should be “attended”. The ‘d’ is missing
Loving the updates though!
— October 17, 2007 @ 9:44 am
JJB wrote:
Bandersnatch, loved your observation, I really did “laugh out loud”. I’m sure I’d prefer birth by “Accio” rather than “Sectumsempra” because curses like Sectumsempra leave scars that can’t be healed. No self-respecting midwitch would leave a scar.
— October 17, 2007 @ 12:59 pm
Eduardo Andrade (duxx) wrote:
“Accio baby!” hahaha great one!
Yeah Lisa, it was actually a good line, but sorry
— October 17, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
elor wrote:
“Accio Baby”… ouch, what a thought! Seeing as how Fred and George’s broomsticks broke their chains, crashed through several solid doors when summoned, I really don’t want to imagine the effect of this… great laugh, though! :-))
— October 18, 2007 @ 2:12 am
Luna Lupin =Moony wrote:
It’s a stereotype/cliché, but in the 16th century midwives and women skilled in herbology had to be carefull not to end up in a witch-trial. Another fact concerning dying in childbirth: many young mothers caught an infection, because the helping doctors didn’t respect the simple hygienics (they didn’t wash their hands).
— October 18, 2007 @ 4:26 am
John wrote:
I updated the St. Mungo’s patients list to include the other nameless folks in the waiting room (there were actually quite a few more than you mentioned, Reader2).
Marco, I disagree with some of your comments - I don’t see any canon backing for Martha “definitely” being an orphan except that the orphans use her first name (and it says that Mrs. Cole passed “helpers and orphans” in the hallway, implying two disparate groups of people - if there are other staff why would she have someone take the iodine to an orphan?). I also think it’s pretty solid that the girl at the door was an orphan - why would Harry (at age 15) think of her as a “girl” if she were old enough to be staff? I agree that neither is 100% certain, but this seems most likely to me by far.
— October 18, 2007 @ 10:41 am
JJB wrote:
The girl answering the door at the orphanage would be called a “girl” more because of her duties than age—at least up to a point. Don’t forget that at the time period we are talking about the kind of person who would take a position of the kind the girl appeared to hold at the orphanage would have been in her mid to late teens. Whether staff or orphan with staff duties can’t be known but it would have been seen as highly improper to have the orphans actually be the ones to answer the door, except as pseudostaff. Mrs. Cole had enough of the lady about her—small remnant though it be—not to be aware of such expectations.
— October 18, 2007 @ 11:40 am
Marco wrote:
Yeah, and in HBP, Ch.13 Mrs. Cole said: “I remember it clear as anything, because I´d just started here myself. … And this girl not much older than I was myself at the time,…” Since Merope Gaunt was 19 at that time, Mrs. Cole must have been also in her late teens, as she became staff member of the orphanage (and therefore in her late 20s as Dumbledore showed up). That means, that some of the staff members of the orphanage might have been actually woman in their late teens. And it is certainly not unusual to refer to a woman of 17-19 as girl.
— October 18, 2007 @ 3:03 pm
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— November 21, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
trelawney wrote:
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— December 6, 2007 @ 10:17 pm